Fellows, the last thing that I want to do is make enemies here, but I still say that it is the Marklin engine in "The Flying Kipper" and "Off the Rails". My reasons why it is not Henry or another character are thus: 1) As I said before, Henry's bright "green paint with red stripes" ;D would have stood out much more obviously, as it does when we see him close up backing onto the train. 2)I've seen the type of model the Marklin engine is, and it has a high-set red footplate directly under the cab and continuing under a bunker, which fits the engine I see.
I'll admit that the scene in "Off the Rails" is rather dark, but that only proves my point. A character engine would have stood out more clearly against the dark background. The way I see it, the producers needed a way to make these scenes look busy, but not in a way that would distract the viewer. In the case of "Off the Rails", attention needed to be kept on Gordon. So the Marklin engine, plain and nondescript, was used.
something I noticed a while ago in "off the rails": it seemed like a truck or something came uncoupled from behind the moving lights. I noticed something behind it seemed to stop while the lights still moved.
I think the ghost train is Percy, and I always have done. They've added streamers to conceal its shape, but it looks more like Percy than anything else. It certainly doesn't look like the Marklin engine, and I'm afraid that I don't buy the argument that it would have been too much effort to do Percy up for that- in the same season we've already seen him covered in lime, hay and rust, so surely streamers wouldn't be any worse than those.
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Call me a glutton for punishment, but if that is the crane, then why isn't there evidence of the lighted cab and that huge searchlight on the crane moving as well? Further, the crane doesn't account for the flash of red that I'm 100% positive can be seen. Perhaps there is a third set of tracks beyond what is seen in the shots of Henry?
Sorry, I'm just getting fed up of being ignored.... The light is the lighted cab. The searchlight is either turned away from the camera or turned off. If there is a flash of red (Which I have never seen), there are lots of things which are red other than tiny lines on a model engine. Even if there was a 3rd set of tracks, they wouldnt be above the quayside that far... It's not depth perception as the light is obviously right next to the ship... Where's the TARDIS when you need it?
Corbs, I'm not ignoring you, and if it has appeared that way, I apologize, but I still think the Marklin engine is in that shot. It can't be the crane because in the close up shots the cab light is well above the ship's deck, even higher than the lights in the disputed shot. Here's something I just realized. The ship in the disputed shot is gray all over, while the ship in the shots with Henry has a white section that goes around the top of the bow and stern. Next, in the disputed shot there is some wooden structure that doesn't move with the lights, while in Henry's shots the only structure is the crane. Furthermore, and I just noticed this, in the shot where Henry first reverses onto the quay, I can see another quay beyond the one Henry is on, and with a second ship! Perhaps the setbuilders had two quays, but only used one for close-ups.
Actually henrythegreen, I've been rather rude, I'm sorry mate! And as I read your last post, it seemed more logical! Maybe they did have 2 scales of dockside model! I mean, it doesnt appear in any other series one episodes does it? It would make sense to just do a small detailed model for the close ups, and a simplistic one for the long-shots...Perhaps? So, maybe it is actually just a light? Oh god... we should just abduct a crew member and force the answer out of them!
agreed. from the shots on ryan's site, it appears to me to be black.
Aren't the pictures on Ryan's site in black and white?
Here's a thought no one's had yet. What if the engine in off the rails is James?
I know he was pulling Gordon out of the ditch. But are the Marklin Engine and James seen in the same shot? It's a possibility that the episode was shot out of order and James was the engine in the quay.
If anything in my statement isn't true, forgive me. I haven't the episode for a while.
TheGreenBeetle: Probably not a good comparison
Jun 16, 2021 16:34:08 GMT
Sleeper Agent: But it does answer the apparently eternal question If you specified 'chicken egg' then it's the chicken as only it can lay a chicken egg and if the egg belongs to the newborn it's the chick's egg (and this could of become a cockerel ).
Jun 16, 2021 22:53:53 GMT
Nicholas: According to the latest theories, the egg came first containing the first chicken, it being a mutation taking place in a zygote from two proto-chickens around 58,000 years ago, themselves having evolved through thousands of years from theropods.
Jun 16, 2021 23:49:41 GMT
Nicholas: And, to come full circle, City of Truro was the first steam engine to reach a reported speed of 100mph, but Flying Scotsman was the first steam engine to reach an officially confirmed speed of 100mph.
Jun 16, 2021 23:52:21 GMT
PercyFan1998: Flying Scotsman was first gang. But I respect the idea of Truro being the possible first but I have my doubts.
Jun 16, 2021 23:59:53 GMT
Madness: I think the answer to that was mentioned on a show called 'Q.I'.
Jun 17, 2021 0:08:09 GMT
Kyle: Currently working on a little project. Can't say much, other than: Something Wicked This Way Comes
Jun 17, 2021 11:20:33 GMT
Gondarth: I keep looking for a release date for All Engines Go. I don't care about the reboot as it is, but I would laugh if it premiered on the day of my wedding (October 16th)
Jun 19, 2021 22:28:02 GMT
aspiegurl: October 2021's all I know, so it might be your wedding day
Jun 19, 2021 22:50:36 GMT
The Thomas Cynic: You could have a live screening party!
Jun 20, 2021 5:46:15 GMT
Gondarth: I would laugh if it is on the same day, but my wedding is on a Saturday, and that seems like a weird day to start airing a new show on Netflix, so I'm not holding my breath. You never know though...
Jun 20, 2021 11:40:04 GMT
TheGreenBeetle: For Father's Day today, I remembered when he was fond of Duke when I was a kid. So I shared him the video The True Stories & History Of Duke: The History Of TTTE to learn more on Duke. Special thanks to TrainBoy
Jun 21, 2021 0:49:58 GMT