Change of subject. For those who remember the 'Model Trains Forums' days I have recently put my old model series up on YouTube on a seperate account.
Reason is because someone has uploaded Dan Snells old videos and in the comments they asked the guy to upload mine. Bare in mind I made this 10 years ago when I was 15 so if your into muffled microphones, narrators who speak too quickly, wobbly cameras and brick skies then this is the series for you!
Small update on the E1, have given her buffers and drilled in holes for the hand rails. The buffers are brass turned ones from 62C models.
Still having problems with the wheels, think the thread in the axle has gone for every now and then they jam when I have the engine in motion. Also bought a packet of Fibre washers which your suspose to put between the crank pins, the idea is to stop the wheels shortning the current; Abit big, I haven't been able to find the ones for O gauge models will hopefully find some soon.
Post by Sleeper Agent on Jan 30, 2018 19:35:07 GMT
Thomas, Percy and the Chocolate Express Can see some wheel issues there so that's where I would start once you get peckish but it does scale up nicely What's up with the bling spray btw? Looks like he violently farted post eating his foil prison.
At the moment its just for reference, I'm going to do more to it a little later on, but I thought the metallic style made it a little different to the usual grays/whites and weathered look you get on stone.
Twitter has been a great format for me to post my modelling on, but I also think its also important to remember your roots!
Started to build an O gauge Annie and Clarabel using Brass North Eastern Railway Coach kits made by Connoisseur models. The aim was to give them the look of the TVS, which meant I would have to include the original models little imperfections, for instance not adding the foot boards, and use wagon axle springs instead of the longer white metal ones that came with the kit. The one big exception would be the extra compartment that came with the kit aswell as not including the front and rear windows. The Teak paintwork was to give them a little more realism, with hope that I can use them outside the Thomas world. The roof vents were made by Tom Jedski, who has made them for his own Annie & Clarabel replica in G1 but very kindly re-scaled them for my O gauge models.
Annie & Clarabels Tenmille models which are four compartments
Annie before spraying
Clarabel looks very different to her kits counterpart, the top windows were removed and the separate piece of roof soldered to the main bit.
The original NER Brake coach kit I used to make Clarabel
Absolutely brilliant. I love the colouration of the two coaches, and the weathering is great giving that feel of being in service for a little while and needing some TLC. Can I ask, what colour did you use for the coaches?
Can I ask, what colour did you use for the coaches?
Its teak, you can find tutorials online about how to apply them, but basically what I did was spray paint the body in a basic orange color and coat it with a 'Citadels Shade' sepia to bring out the detail.
Thought I would breakdown the process on my interiors. As much as I love brass I am not completely bias to using resin or any other materials to make my kits. I bought a load of these seats in 16.5mm which is the O gauge equivalent to Narrow Gauge.
Please note I'm not that assertive when it comes to explaining my process so if you can make out whats happening from the photos thats great!
As the seats were too short to fit snugly inside each compartment I added an extra seat to one set and proceeded to create a couple of silicone molds. There is a gap which can easily be seen where I have joined the two together but I find once you make a resin copy you can barley see it, plus you won't be able to tell once glazing has been placed
Master copy waiting for silicone
There were a few mistakes in the resin cast so have put some two part Mulliput so I can file it down later
Trying on for size
Clarabels guards compartment consists of a brake wheel improvised by spare pieces of whitemetal I had lying around
Skip a few stages
Once painted it was time to add people
Paint still needs touching up on some of the coach seats. I have left them in the primer coat as it seemed to work okay.
Personally I like to think the man in the green coat could be the Reverend Awdry himself, researching for his next book...
Post by Sleeper Agent on Jun 17, 2019 13:05:50 GMT
Oh what a difference a bit of interior detail can make! Unless they are going to be lit or are particularly open windowed I do feel a lot of finer detailing goes to waste once the roof is on but it certainly has made a difference with these, especially with the passengers to boot The use of narrow gauge seats is quite clever as well, with the lack of G3 equivalents might have have to see what's available on the SM32 market Based on the build quality of A&C looking forward to the reserve kits coming into play
Having already blown these pictures up all over social media, couldn't forget to post them on here too.
Recently I got in contact with an old friend from uni 'Claire', when I first met her she was studying Illustration and in the last couple of years she has been posting pictures on her Facebook of her warhammer painting. I have always thought that the people who model in warhammer put so much more effort into their texturing and shadows then general model railway enthusiasts do. So not wanting to pretend to know what I was doing I shared the work and sent off five figures for her to paint and the results made my heart stop.
Without further ado, I introduce...
1970s Train Spotter
Ringo Starr (Mr Conductor)
fat controller (Leslie) in his Clive Spong guise
Locomotive painter (Knuckles?)
Chris the Xelent
Still can't get over how much detail has been put into the clothing such as the folds in the sleeves and the highlights on the jeans, doesn't even look like its been hand painted.
What I have gained from this is reach out to people for help. If someone can do a job you can't give that person the opportunity, because I have had these figurines for years and now I finally have them painted exactly how I wanted them. It has also given me a reason to message an old friend after so long too!
A month ago from now I sent off some more figurines for painting. I tend to find a figurine that fits a specific character in both the books and television series and go from there. For these I have used the same miniature figurine artist as before, and again very satisfied with Claire's work!
NWR/LB&SCR locomotive crew
Produced by Andrew C Stadden. The plan all along was to have both Driver and Fireman painted in an LB&SCR guise but there wasn't an awful lot of information about what colors the uniforms would have been but according to Stadden apart from the drivers caps alot of the engine crews would have worn their own clothes, whether or not this applies to these specific figurines the colors would have been a variety of Blacks, Greys or Browns. In Victorian times they would have worn much stronger colors for the waistcoats such as Blues, Greens or Dark Reds.
Well these two were given stronger waist coats, but went for a very familiar sudrian dress code in the end so I could take pictures of them with Thomas once hes finished, and actually think they look better personally.
Why called the Teleporter? In the episode 'Thomas's Train' this man was spotted in two different places where there wasn't a rational explanation as to how he got from A to B so quickly. He can be seen shouting at Thomas as he pulls away without the coaches, and then soon afterwards he is seen waving at Thomas whilst standing next to a Policeman and two children.
I love the work done on the flat cap, one of my favorites so far.
These two were painted similar to a couple of the figurines that were used in various places throughout the first two series of Thomas. Quite like the mix of characters from different timelines e.g the Edwardian gentlemen, but it would have been nice if there were enough clearer shots of the figurines in the show so I could give my painter a much better reference for future projects.
Quite a generic color scheme for a loco crew, nothing really obvious that would help this man stand out as a Railway Series character, only that its reference is from the book 'Thomas and the Hurricane' illustrated by Stephen Lings.
Sir Topham Hatts first wife
Something non-Thomas related
Obviously listed as a foreman, but the head reminded me more of my favorite character from Only Fools and Horses, so I thought why not?
Don't make the same mistakes as everyone here, keep a distance of at least two meters, and wear a mask.
Wrote an article for the RMweb forums to introduce my O gauge workbench and talked about my Thomas project so decided to repost it here. Please bear in mind I was writing it with the intention to help simplify the RWS/TVS for those who probably weren't into Thomas at an attempt to make it as interesting as possible for them, so if it sounds like I'm saying the obvious and repeating what has been said on SiF thousands of times that'll be why.
Have wanted to make a Thomas as soon as I started modelling in O gauge, I would have a collection of LB&SCR stock with at least one character from the Railway Series. And since Thomas was based on a Brighton tank he seemed perfect and if anyone asked why I could say he was part of the family.
The project started in 2012, I had bought the Lionel Thomas model with the intention of converting it from 3-rail to 2-rail aswell as modifying the body shell to look more like his Television counterpart as seen in the photograph down below. The plan was to scratch-build a new chassis that would take slaters wheels, strip off all of the unnecessary detail (raised stripes, whistles buffers etc) and give it a bigger boiler tube.
Lionel's Thomas model
The original G1 Thomas used in the Television Series was made from Perspex, whilst the chassis was sourced from a cut up Marklin BR 55. Other details such as the buffers and lamps would also be taken off various other Marklins. Thomas would later be made of Brass when it came to shooting the feature film 'Thomas and the Magic Railroad' in the year 2000 before the show later went into computer animation.
(c) Mattel, Image from the Thomas and Friends wikipedia
This is where progress ended
In 2017 I became dissatisfied with it and lost interest in the idea of having plastic stock. (With the exception of wagons) I already had an E1 in the make and decided I wanted all of my engines to be made from metal. Also I wasn't a real fan of the toy-like appearance this Thomas had, and wanted a more realistic looking model to fit in with the real railway. Thomas is based on the LB&SCR E2 with extended side tanks, and luckily there was already a brass kit available.
The E2 kit also comes with additional parts so that the modeller can make a more authentic looking Thomas. It felt like a childhood dream come true in terms of O gauge, The parts included are cab sides with the smaller viewing window, and extended smokebox saddles. As the television Thomas was built from parts of Marklin engines I decided to replicate that feature into mine.
Here is a comparison of the Thomas smokebox saddle with the original E2 ones. Notice the peculiar shape as the Thomas ones don't quite match up to the ones on his television duplicate.
Nothing a file and metal cutting scissors can't fix
Thomas was also fitted with a pair of carriage buffers to replicate the Marklin ones. Also note the over scaled Marklin style lamp made via shapeways.
The kit for some reason only came with one set of window frames, so I had to spray paint them over a sheet of brass so I could cut them out and replicate them.
During the build Thomas has been out and about. Here I have taken him to my friends house and placed him next to his G1 replica. The lucky boy has collected some of the props used in the original Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends series. Notice the gauge difference below. The track my Thomas is sitting on was altered for Narrow Gauge as the Skarloey Railway was made in O gauge in the fourth series.
Big Thomas, Little Thomas
Standing next to the original Dryaw station building used in the first series of Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends. Originally covered in brick paper, it was later remodeled with resin bricks.
The same bridge used in the opening credits for the original Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends, it was also used in various locations throughout the model era.
Shaping up now, or so it seems
After alot of reflection, I decided I wasn't really happy with what I have done with him. In my eyes he just looked silly. And when your friendship group consists of Railway Series modellers, your modelling bug suddenly changes shape. If we were to ignore the book illustrations and the TV series model, Thomas should look more like this...
I made this Hornby E2 Thomas 10 years ago, unfortunately it no longer exists
Reginald Payne was responsible for Thomas's design, it wasn't anything like Awdrys sketches, but he accepted the change and allowed it so long as it was based off of a real engine. What didn't make sense about Payne's E2 was the changes he made such as the raised rear footplate, Cab shape, the new style safety valve and the wheel splashers. Thomas's appearance changed so much throughout the first book, in one picture he would have an extra window in his cab, the next it was replaced with a red striped box. The design was finalized when C. Reginald Dalby took over from Payne and re-illustrated the book, keeping his unusual shape and making his smaller cab window a permanent feature.
And of course when Britt Alcroft wanted to turn the books into a Television series the model makers based the style of the engines on how they looked in the pictures, replicating the beautiful watercolor paintings and all the engines rather toy-train like appearance.
You can find out more about Reginald Payne and see scans of his original illustrations by clicking on the link below
Reginald Payne's first illustration of Thomas. Notice the missing side window has been replaced with a red box.
Thomas repainted by C. Reginald Dalby and he carried on as the official Railway Series illustrator until the eleventh book 'Percy the Small Engine'
(c) Mattel, photo taken from the Thomas and Friends wikipedia
Some theories believe that when Thomas came to Sodor he would have been just an ordinary E2, and later modified to resemble his current look, Hornby themselves have altered their E2 tooling so that their Thomas would match the pictures. These back stories were written in order to cover up the mistakes caused by the illustrator.
See if you can spot the differences.
The point of modelling is to create an example of either what was, or what could have been. I've decided to part way with the authenticity Ace Products have produced and look towards making Thomas a regular E2 from the 1920s with no extras.
E2 cab built up with the correct side windows
Thomas now has his E2 smokebox saddle frames in place, and shorter buffers. The Chimney and Dome are made by Knuckles from his E2 cad, I plan to make whitemetal castings from them.
Really happy with the way its going now, can't wait to finish him.
Other recent projects...
This is a JPL Tanker kit, made from Whitemetal castings and a nicklesilver tube. This has been soldered together using 70% low melt solder and Liquid Flux from Roxey Mouldings. (With the exception of 145 solder for the tube)
The brass base was made to hide the mistakes I made to the underframes
The axleboxes were drilled out using a draper drill and were fitted with no bearings, the axles were so thick I didn't have any that fit.
Despite that it runs perfectly, still needs more work though
Click this link to watch my Dapol 08 Diesel shunt it
Have recently had more figurines sent off for painting and again very happy with Claire's hardwork.
William Stroudley and Robert Billinton
My tribute to the late-great Michael Angelis
A very young and mischievous Christopher Awdry from the Percy Runs Away illustration
Jeremiah Jobling with a slight resemblance to Clouseau
Stylish man in stripey chinos relaxing
A Photographer, can't get over the detail she has put into his coat.
Mother and Child chose to copy the outfit of one of the figurines from Thomas and Bertie
Long post, trying to beat Sleeper Agent at his own game
"BAH RANK AMATEUR, dare to tag me next when you've breached the 262144 characters limit!"
The Thomas section is interesting, funny how much we can yo-yo on justifying how the characters 'would' look and great job on the bunker grill (the SR plating is something I'm glad Thomas missed out on). Also it's still awesome you manged to get your model in the presence of the intro bridge and Dryaw
The specific figures are something else as well, boldly impressive for 7mm! Your Thom certainly seems to appreciate the attention Tanker is coming together nicely as well, gonna be a TAR or something owned by a small Sudrian firm?
MrMilkDuctor: Most of them are hit era which I don’t mind since this is the I grew up on
Sept 21, 2021 19:07:34 GMT
aspiegurl: IDK where you are but it aired first the year I was born and in reruns until '98. It's on Youtube and there's a wikia for it.
Sept 21, 2021 21:20:27 GMT
MrMilkDuctor: I was born in the 2000s so i I didn’t even watch the reruns from 1993 - 1998, as I said the only time I watch shining time STS was probably on a unknown channel but hey that’s cool to hear
Sept 21, 2021 22:02:48 GMT
dtchapman1: I suppose that is one thing we do have to consider on this forum now. We are pretty much at a point that new members are going to have grown up largely with the HiT era.
Sept 21, 2021 22:26:37 GMT
Two Red Engines: Me, I was born in '96. I didn't really see the episodes when they were first broadcast (Dad's job took us overseas), but I had several VHS tapes from S1-8 - including the AUS releases of Thomas & Gordon, Percy & Harold, Trust Thomas,...
Sept 21, 2021 23:22:57 GMT
Two Red Engines: Story & Song Collection, and Thomas & The Special Letter!
Sept 21, 2021 23:23:27 GMT
MrMilkDuctor: The hit era is actually decent compare to what we have now also the merchandise was just incredible
Sept 21, 2021 23:33:57 GMT
MrMilkDuctor: Two red engines i had only Like 5 DVD’s when I was young sadly I lost 3 of them hopefully you kept all of your VHS tapes
Sept 21, 2021 23:37:21 GMT
Two Red Engines: Thanks! I think I managed to keep most of them (mainly the individual S1-4 releases, as well as my Series 5 box set), as well as two DVDs, an S1-5 compilation ('Truck Loads of Fun') and a Series 6 release, ('The Chocolate Crunch')...
Sept 21, 2021 23:41:07 GMT
Two Red Engines: ...but some were lost to time, and others (mainly the S8 releases!) were just simply given away. Still have about 5 VHS releases (6 if you count the fact that my S5 box set came with two tapes) and those two DVDs, though, so not too bad in my opinion.
Sept 21, 2021 23:42:55 GMT
Two Red Engines: Say, anyone still got copies of their Railway Series books? Me, I've still got my 1997 edition of 'The Complete Collection' (the Gawdry version!), as well as RWS volumes 31, 32 and 40 (along with some stories from RWS 28 and 30 from the TTTE Book Club).
Sept 21, 2021 23:45:44 GMT
MrMilkDuctor: Solid collection right there!
Sept 22, 2021 0:05:56 GMT
MrMilkDuctor: I have the complete first series of the classic collection DVD from 2003 the one that has a menu option,I might post that later and a another one from the hit era a steam team DVD these are the only ones I still have .
Sept 22, 2021 0:06:33 GMT
MrMilkDuctor: Classic Thomas is gonna come back?
Sept 22, 2021 10:15:53 GMT
MrMilkDuctor: Or did I just read that in a wrong way
Sept 22, 2021 10:19:38 GMT
whosgeoffrey: I'm personally inclined to think of it as just another one of Allcroft's very heart-warming messages to the adult fanbase. If she is doing something new with Thomas, I doubt it'll be new episodes, though — maybe the biography she mentioned some time ago?
Sept 22, 2021 12:36:14 GMT
MrMilkDuctor: Yeah that could be true
Sept 22, 2021 13:17:21 GMT